Saturday, October 22, 2005

Clogging (Commenting on Blogs)

Liberal v. ConservativeSeveral people have asked why I bother to comment on so-called "conservative" blogs, such as Polipundit, many of whom make a claim to conservatism, but are, instead, decidedly right-wing.

Well, when I come across a clearly false assertion that has not been refuted by others, I am often compelled to post a direct reply to that specific assertion. Just because a blog is clearly right-wing; many others, called lurkers, may read the posts without comment. Some may be young, or just unknowing. As such, I believe it is important to respond to false assertions, especially on high-traffic sites that purport to have influence.

I have a few personal rules-of-thumb that have served me well. (And when I have ignored my own rules-of-thumb, I have often witnessed the consequences.)
The truth always matters.
Winning an argument is not the goal.

Listen to others.
Respect others.
Admit error.
Admit fallibility.
Retract or clarify as required.

Find common ground where possible.
Be sure of your facts; research *before* posting.
Support your assertions with appropriate cites.

Stay on-topic.
Ad hominem is always off-topic.
Ignore off-topic comments.
Post only when you have something new to add to the discussion.

ΣωκράτηςI believe it is important to preserve conservative philosophy from right-wing and reactionary movements. Conservatives believe that traditional values and institutions are the bulwark of society, and so they are. But right-wing movements, claiming the mantle of conservatism, will often destroy even long-standing institutions in order to bring back some mythical good-old-days, that never really existed.



At 10/22/2005 8:58 AM , Blogger Zachriel said...

A few threads I have posted to on Polipundit.

Often, the longest discussions concern the Intelligent Design movement. Of course, Intelligent Design is not a scientific endeavor, but a political movement. That's why the only significant discussion of Intelligent Design is in political forums.

Evolution Defined.

At 10/22/2005 4:18 PM , Blogger Rodrigo Sobota said...

But right-wing movements, claiming the mantle of conservatism, will often destroy even long-standing institutions in order to bring back some mythical good-old-days, that never really existed.

Such is the case of religious organizations, some of them clearly fundamentalist. Now around thw world religious institutions like the Opus Dei and several other new churches are trying to destroy old theories and combine state and religion. The French Revolution had an important legacy, and those who are still not crazy enough have to defend it. Creationism is not valid, Evolution is. Until a better theory appears. We should fight those institutions, but believing in God should not be a crime. These fundamentalists are extremists like fascists and communists, and still a minority. But they are growing in size since 2001.

The solution would be to leave these out of the government. But what about the US? They ARE in the government, and with the support from the majority. Blind and ignorant people, who are manipulated by religious leaders. This happens where I live too, particularly with poor and illiterate people who give all their money to evangelical churches. This money, of course, goes directly to the bank account of the priests, who spend it not in charity or something that might be considered good. They make entire fortunes with that.

The solution is not to fight religion at all, but these extremists groups. The german nazi party had some conservative ideals, but this is not a reason to destroy everything conservative. The same happens with Church.

The principle is: freedom of religion, but religion cannot be imposed to the government. Church and State are separate entities. Some right-wing ideals are tolerable, but there are right-wing groups who defend theories completely destructive to a true democracy.

This is something off-topic, but I was always wondering about that Bismarck avatar you have. Great idea! And I, a Bismarck admirer, will have to use other avatar :(.

At 1/11/2006 9:45 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Twerp/Twerpette!

At 5/16/2006 6:08 PM , Blogger Zachriel said...

Polipundit just self-destructed in a frenzy of back-biting. Ironically, it was over an issue of guest-bloggers disagreeing with the host about guest-workers — the immigrant issue.

At 7/21/2006 5:40 PM , Blogger Zachriel said...

Well, Polipundit has reconstructed itself — somewhat. They have replaced reasonable bloggers with people who consider accusations of "liar" and "idiot" to be arguments.

They parody themselves so well that they will have little influence outside their own echo-chamber. It doesn't seem necessary to post there.

At 12/03/2013 10:14 AM , Blogger Zachriel said...



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